Re: Autographed LZ II auction

["Dan Copenhaver" <zbird@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If it came from a company that sells music memorabilia you have to be very 
careful. I told this story before but not sure if it was here or not so I 
apologize if so.
Back when I was framing pictures I got to see alot of stuff like this come 
through. There was this company called Musicom that we did the framing for 
their "collectibles". One of their items were these gold records of various 
bands done in a shadow box. I remember The Eagles Hotel California, and Pink 
Floyd DSOTM for sure being in the lineup. I have one of the PF ones on the 
wall in my laundry room. They were very expensive too but mine was a 
prototype of a design they didn't pick and they never ask for it back so it 
came home with me. Anyway, these gold records were not even the actual album 
of the band. They were just records of whoever painted gold. Mine is 
actually a Gladys Knight and the Pips album with the dark side of the moon 
label in the center.
The same is true with the signed and numbered prints that are so popular. We 
used to do prints for Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain elk foundation, 
National Wild Turkey Federation and the Pennsylvania game commission. So we 
get stacks of these prints in signed and numbered supposedly by the artist. 
And I'm sure most of them were signed by the artist but some you could tell 
several people signed them. If there were 900 prints and you look at the 
signature in the first 200 and then look at the signature in the last 200 
they would almost never match. They would also give us a stack of unsigned 
and unnumbered in case something got damaged which happened quite a bit in 
shipping. So the person that got a broken picture would send it back to us 
and usually the broken glass would scratch the print so it was worthless. We 
would just get out one of the unsigned ones and find someone who could write 
similar to the artist to sign and number that one with the number that was 
on the damaged one. There really wasn't any other way to do it short of 
mailing it back to the artist.
Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nech" <tytlane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <zbird@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <zeppelin@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Autographed LZ II auction


> Even with their coa I am still finding those autographs to be a bit of a 
> stretch.  And seems like Sam over at .com is in agreement on that 
> one...but he too has failed to give a definitive yeay or nay....  Even 
> when I kinda outright asked for one... I mean You'd think if anything he 
> could at least reach out to JPJ as I know they're tight and say, yo this 
> yours ?
>
> As always with these things coa or not caveat emptor.... but for a decent 
> cause at least you won't feel too bad if it turns out bogus and you didn't 
> bet the farm on it.
>
> zbird@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > That frame is worth a good bit itself. I was a picture framer for 20 
> > years...Its called a shadow box and they can cost a lot to do. It's much 
> > more involved than regular frames. I hated doing them myself...
> >
> > I can't tell who is who from those signatures. None look like any letters 
> > in the alphabet to me. LOL
> > Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nech" <tytlane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <tytlane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <zeppelin@xxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Autographed LZ II auction
> >
> >
> > > And hell, not till just now did I even realize that the whole album is 
> > > enclosed in this huge frame
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockforkids/4128456069/sizes/l/in/photostream/
> > >
> > > and yes it WILL come with the CoA.