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Re: Pink Floyd (NZC)
- Subject: Re: Pink Floyd (NZC)
- From: Jonathan Bayer <jonathanbayer@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:07:36 -0500
I hear you -- i actually dont agree with the statement that Waters =
Floyd; in the end, i think he needed Gilmour to reign him in, and I
think Gilmour needed Waters' creativity and vision. I was focused
more on the post-83 version of Floyd. Dont get me wrong, i enjoyed
the two Pink Floyd shows I saw in '87, particularly Cleveland Stadium,
which was one of the few shows to feature Echoes. I just dont
consider it Pink Floyd. And the two post- Waters studio albums dont
measure up, IMO, to anything they put out in the 70s. Ive seen Waters
a bunch and enjoyed his shows as well (though the DSOTM stuff really
missed Gilmour's voice). As you said, its a matter of taste and I
certainly respect your opinion (though I find it difficult to believe
that you really think Pulse or Delicate Sound of Thunder compare to Is
there anybody out there? or any bootleg (e.g., BBC Archives 74, Black
Holes in the Sky or Welcome to the Machine - Oakland 77) .
The Stones dont bother me after Brian Jones (but post Mick Taylor is a
different story!)
Last word -- do you
On Dec 29, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Steve Thomson wrote:
Jonathan Bayer wrote:
And I'm not even going to get in to the Pink Floyd argument. I will
only say this: Roger Waters solo tour = Pink Floyd. David Gilmour's
Roger Waters-less version of Pink Floyd = good, but not nearly as
great as Roger Waters solo (and then there's Gilmour playing his
solo stuff with some classic Floyd mixed in, which I will also call
great)
Ah but it's all a question of taste. I though Waters live was just a
morose, brooding, self-congratulatory bore but Floyd without him was
still Floyd minus the bad vocals. Yes, I know he wrote the better
songs, but as an overall listening experience, the post-Waters Floyd
was fine with me and with most people I know.
Then again there are those who feel anything post Syd is not Floyd,
just as there are Stones dans who feel nothing done since Brian
Jones left is valid (I listened to Voodoo Lounge this afternoon and
thought it was tremendous).