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With all due respect, this kind of stuff is IMHO the real case of not moving on or letting go. All the discussion of 30-40 year old shows, who taped them, etc., has all been done here or elsewhere before. Sure when new shows appear, it's nice to discuss them, but all this other stuff has been done before on lots of sites and on FBO. Bob's excellent work on the archives and search engine makes it all much more accessible than before.

I'm not advocating we instead sit here flaming each other over who's bashing whom, but to suggest that discussing reunion/J's/RPAK is "rehashing" while discussing stuff that's four decades old isn't rehashing is a bit ludicrous, don't you think?

The sad reality is that maybe that's all we have left as Led Zeppelin fans. If this new hint that one of the band is hung up on getting Robert back into the fold is true and not just idle speculation, then perhaps the whole thing will fall apart and there'll be nothing more to talk about but the old days.

In 2007, Led Zeppelin and all the magic associated came alive again to many of us. Yes, I know a few self-proclaimed "experts" maintain it was only an approximation, but all four members of the band themselves referred to it as Led Zeppelin and I tend to believe them, not the outsiders. Unfortunately, Led Zeppelin's singer walked away and what's left of the band tried to carry on in some form but then the press painted them into a corner so badly that the whole project is seemingly on life support right now. I suggest this is a far more pressing topic than what they did when Nixon was president and the streets were filled with Chevy Vega's and Ford Pinto's!

Hey, discuss what you want, but please don't tell me, cathy or any of the other accused "Plant bashers" that we're unable to let go or move on from events in the past 12 months until you can let go or move on from things that happened 40 years ago!

Nech wrote:
EXCELLENT TOPICS and things to ponder.

So come on folks... come out of lurkdom and show your colors...or at least
that you exist.

I know lotsa folks are doing the vacation/holidays thing, but this is an
ongoing topic that can keep us busy well into next year ..

to infinity and beyond.

I got some sxtuff to do, but later today will certainly respond in more
detail with what I have heard about the things below.


----- Original Message ----- From: <sirebonham@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Nech" <tytlane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <zeppelin@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: Robert


Thanks for asking, Nech. Here are a few topics I would love to see over
any rehashing of the Zep reunion/coulda/woulda/shoulda posts:
1) Soundboards from shows not Officially released - how did these come
about - from the event of the recording to the trading of the tapes.   When
fragments of some shows exist, like Seattle 72 for example - is it likely
that more of these shows exist?
2) About the Tapers - I'd like to hear more about the people and their
stories (second hand) that helped to bring us live shows that otherwise many
of us would never know. Millard from SoCal and Stan from Seattle would be a
couple to start with. Also would like to know about the east coast tapers.
3) Video - I've heard that the 1977 Detroit Pontiac Silverdome and Houston
Summit shows may have jumbotron feeds that were recorded and that some folks
have seen some or all of this. Is there any information about this here?  I
have a family member and a friend that were at both of these shows.
Also, for the powerhouse shows that happened at the LA Forum does any
video exist more than fragments found on Cosmic Energy's series? I realize
the band probably loathed video taping after the low yield rush job at MSG
in '73, but what about amateur film taken from the crowd or side stage by
the groupies, roadies, press? Seems that the May 31 '73 Forum gig with
Bonzo's Birthday would have been one that somebody would have captured.
Does the complete NBC news footage of MSG 75 Rock n Roll - the complete
song - which the snippet was taken? It appears to be the best quality of any
'75 video. The LA Forum 6-23-77 show has quite a few fragments, including
some revealing moments like when Robert was messing around on drums while
Keith Moon was front stage talking to the audience. Does more of this source
exist. The LA 6-26 show final encore It'll Be Me exists, and there appears
to be two sources. Do more of this source(s) exist, like other songs from
the same show?
4) Dialog with fans and band related employees/contractors that were at
some of the famous/infamous shows, just to name a few: any 68 show, any 69
show, LA Forum any/all, Seattle any pre-77 show, MSG any/all (I printed off
your '77 MSG experience and kept it), Germany '73 and '80, Earls Court '75,
Knebworth '77.  Pics of fans and the band from the show, t-shirts, stubs,
any memorabilia.
5) Eddie Edwards - who is he, how did he become a guru on Zep, and where
is he now?  Same questions for Luis Rey, and others that are Zep historians.
These are just a few off the top that I have an interest in. I understand
FBO may have members that can speak to some of these points with authority
or at least some close, perhaps in-the-know knowledge.
ChargerSRT

------Original Message------
From: Nech
To: sirebonham@xxxxxxxxx
To: zeppelin@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Dec 27, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: Robert

AND what other topic can YOU provide?


----- Original Message ----- From: <sirebonham@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <zeppelin@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: Robert


AMEN, Eddie!  What a waste of everyone's time, especially those of us
that
have to scroll through all the BS to find a good nugget once in a while.
Sure would like to see people here let it go and move on to other
topics.
Quoted text:
"Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:46:17 +0000
From: Eddie Lombardi <elombardi70@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Robert

The bitching about Robert never ends because people just can't let it
go.
Seems that people have nothing better to do but to hang on his every
word
spending endless hours analyzing and re-analyzing what he has said and
not
said."