Re: SECOND NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT AND DECLARATION: RHINO ENTERTAINMENT | Led Zeppelin [zeppelinart.com]

[Chris Leone <ceeleone2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

I just read the "About us" section on grayzone.com.

Seems like they are more of an investigative company, not ones that would 
actually make a move. they state they are a group of "paralegals, research 
experts, music, movie and software professionals, licensed private 
investigators and skilled computer operators on call to serve you. We 
specialize in the field of anti-piracy operations and have contacts worldwide 
to assist us."
They would figure out the operation, and then turn it over to be pursued by 
someone else, at least that is what I get from it, there is even a statement at 
the bottom to attorneies, informing them they are not trying to replace them, 
but to help them stop the boots. Thing is they are talking about 
Bootlegged CDs, not shows. they go after material that has been released, a 
totaly different story than what we do.
No matter what they are, it would take quite the while to do anything, 
and properly worded responses would slow them down forever!
I wouldnt worry about it too much, But im sure most here would not mind having 
it all on disc, I know I still have my Project Ballentine Discs on hand if need 
be, and I do go to them occasionally.
But I must say thanks for keeping it going for as long as you have, I have used 
your site for reference purposes and of course for art, so kudos to you for 
doing what you have!
 Christopher Leone 



----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Hammond <pauleh@xxxxxxx>
To: Randy <randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: zeppelin@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:26:05 PM
Subject: Re: SECOND NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT AND DECLARATION: RHINO ENTERTAINMENT 
| Led Zeppelin [zeppelinart.com]

Dear Randy,

  From what I can see on your site you aren't selling anything or seeking to 
profit from it in any way, unless I am mistaken. If you are providing the 
material for educational purposes and it is elsewhere on the net then you 
should have nothing to worry about from a copyright/trademark infringement 
standpoint. Usually there has to be a transaction of money involved to be able 
to make a claim against a third party. What are they losing by this? Why does a 
multimillion dollar company have an interest in seeking to curtail an avid 
collector from amassing a database of artwork that could barely earn them 
fractions of a penny? It doesn't make sense, especially in lieu of the fact 
that Led Zeppelin themselves were the biggest plagiarists of the early american 
blues artists known to mankind. I own a lot of the original blues recordings, 
and the amount of theft on Zeppelin's part is no laughing matter. I think 
grayzone.com should be working for the old blues
 artists to get some more publishing and royalty $$$ out of the Led Zeppelin 
camp for all they stole from the american blues heritage. They should be happy 
that anyone cares to preserve the legacy, instead of trying to milk every last 
cent out of ordinary people. If this type of activity becomes common public 
knowledge it will only be a matter of time before kids will say "Led Zeppelin 
Sucks". Thanks Rhino Entertainment, you scum sucking weasel bastards!

On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Randy wrote:

> Dear FBO'ers:
> I guess I knew this day may come after 7 years online.  It certainly looks 
> legitimate. I assume these were the same threats that shutdown earlier art 
> projects.  Does anyone have any insight?  By the way, I never received the 
> First Notice, as if that makes any difference.  I considered calling; 
> however, that would only announce myself immediately.  I'm using an ISP 
> privacy service...but that would hold back a supoena only temporarily.  
> Obviously this is a risk that I can't take.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Hal Corrigan <grayzone@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:11:49 AM
> Subject: URGENT - SECOND NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT AND DECLARATION: RHINO 
> ENTERTAINMENT | Led Zeppelin [zeppelinart.com]
> 
> Hal Corrigan completed the feedback form on your website. The following is 
> what they had to say:
> Name: Hal Corrigan
> User's Email: grayzone@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: URGENT - SECOND NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT AND DECLARATION: RHINO 
> ENTERTAINMENT | Led Zeppelin [zeppelinart.com]
> 
> Message:
> SECOND NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT AND DECLARATION
> 
> TO: ZEPPELINART.COM
> randy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (also submitted online)
> 
> RTechHandle: AD195-ARIN
> RTechName:  Dills, Andy
> RTechPhone:  +1-301-682-9972
> RTechEmail:  andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> REGARDING:  http://www.zeppelinart.com
> 
> IMMEDIATELY REMOVE THE FOLLOWING UNAUTHORIZED IMAGES IN CONNECTION WITH
> LED ZEPPELIN:
> 
> http://www.zeppelinart.com/tree/default.htm
> 
> 
> RHINO ENTERTAINMENT, A WARNER MUSIC GROUP COMPANY
> 
> I, the undersigned, do solemnly and sincerely declare and CERTIFY UNDER
> PENALTY OF PERJURY that:
> 
> 1. I am the owner or an agent authorized to act on behalf of the owner of
> certain intellectual property rights, said owner being named RHINO
> ENTERTAINMENT ("IP Owner").
> 
> 2. I have a good faith belief that the materials identified in the
> addendum
> attached hereto are not authorized by the above IP Owner, its agent,
> or the
> law and therefore infringe the IP Owner's rights according to the laws
> of
> the (check all that apply):
> 
> United States
> Australia
> Brazil
> Canada
> EUR
> France
> Germany
> Italy
> Japan
> Netherlands
> Russia
> United Kingdom
> All of the above    X
> 
> Please act expeditiously to remove or disable access to the material or
> items claimed to be infringing.
> 
> 3. I may be contacted at:
> 
> Printed Name:  Dorothy Sherman
> Title:  Consultant
> Company:  Rhino Entertainment
> Address:  3400 W. Olive Ave. P-5-2
> City,State:  Burbank, CA 91505
> Attn:  Tracie Parry
> Email (correspondence):  GrayZone@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.grayzone.com
> Telephone:  718 360-9941
> Fax:  718 552-3028
> 
> Date:  26 SEPTEMBER 2009
> 
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