Re: Jack White and Jimmy Page diss 'Guitar Hero' video game

[Neal <nealr2000@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm surprised at Jimmy's stance on the whole Zep Guitar Hero thing.  Page is 
the original riff master.  Maybe he is just being tactical, but I believe a Zep 
GH would be an enormous seller and make him a nice chunk of change.  I don't 
see GH in any way denigrating the music or affecting future album sales.

Tim is right.  I have fantasized about playing a guitar all my life.  I've had 
a few attempts but artistic endeavors come more easily to some than others.  I 
truly believe it's in your genes.  
  
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Tim Fricke <oldstyle5150@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Tim Fricke <oldstyle5150@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Jack White and Jimmy Page diss 'Guitar Hero' video game
> To: "cathy kelty" <catharinak@xxxxxxxxxx>, zeppelin@xxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 4:13 PM
> So because Zeppelin chose to sell out
> to Cadillac it's OK because lots
> of songs mention Caddilacs? Sorry, but that's just stupid.
> You say
> pick up a real guitar if you want to play Zeppelin? I don't
> have the
> time, money, talent, etc to be able to master a Zep song. I
> wish I
> could, but it's never going to happen. I think people who
> rip these
> games, Pagey included, are very short sighted. How many of
> us picked
> up a tennis raquet as a kid pretending it was a guitar to
> "jam" along
> with Whole Lotta Love? The only difference is the
> technology.
> 
> On 9/12/09, cathy kelty <catharinak@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > [ For Badgeholders Only ]
> >
> > Man, when I saw the Beatles' avatars this week a
> little piece of me
> >   died.  Jimmy is right about
> this... these are beloved human beings
> >   and artists, and music that means
> something, not cheesy characters in
> >   video games meant for a few mintues
> of wanking.  You want to play
> >   Zeppelin, buy a guitar or drum kit
> and do it right.
> >
> >   As for the Cadillac thing, I think it
> was about it being Cadillac, a
> >   car that has been featured in many a
> rock song.  A quick Google
> >   search shows about 1,000 songs with
> Cadillac in the title.  Johnny
> >   Cash, Bruce Springsteen, and many
> others sing about this particular
> >   car, which is known for it's luxury
> and big back seats... so if it's
> >   a sell out, it's at least a classy
> sell out.
> >
> >   Now the coke and JC Penney
> commericals, eh, not so much...
> >
> >   ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   Believe.
> >
> >   On Sep 11, 2009, Tim Fricke <oldstyle5150@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Count me among the group that
> would love to see a Zeppelin Rock
> >     Band
> >     or Guitar Hero game. At least
> that is about the music. Where the
> >     fuck
> >     was this musical integrity
> when Cadillac got permission to use
> >     Rock &
> >     Roll in a fucking car
> commercial?
> >
> >     On 9/11/09, Jon Hull <jonohull@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >     > I'm sure Courtney Love
> was just drunk or high when she signed
> >     away the
> >     > rights to this and
> doesn't remember. Or, she actually only
> >     cares about
> >     > money and wants people to
> give her 'cred' for being angry about
> >     it.
> >     >
> >     > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at
> 7:05 PM, Meg Ireland
> > <heavybluesrock@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > wrote:
> >     >> Nirvana members
> dismayed by 'Guitar Hero 5':
> >     >>
> >     >> "Kurt Cobain's
> appearance in the latest "Guitar Hero" video
> >     game is
> >     >> not hitting the right
> notes with the surviving members of
> >     Nirvana.
> >     >>
> >     >> Krist Novoselic and
> Dave Grohl said in a joint statement
> >     Thursday that
> >     >> they were "dismayed
> and very disappointed" that an avatar of
> >     the late
> >     >> Nirvana frontman
> could be used to play songs by other artists.
> >     >>
> >     >> "While we were aware
> of Kurt's image being used with two
> >     Nirvana
> >     >> songs, we didn't know
> players have the ability to unlock the
> >     >> character," they
> said. "This feature allows the character to
> >     be used
> >     >> with any kind of song
> the player wants. We urge Activision to
> >     do the
> >     >> right thing in
> 're-locking' Kurt's character so that this
> >     won't
> >     >> continue in the
> future."
> >     >>
> >     >> Cobain's widow,
> Courtney Love, had been lashing out on Twitter
> >     this
> >     >> week about her late
> husband's inclusion in the game, calling
> >     it vile
> >     >> and claiming she
> would sue Activision, the game's publisher.
> >     Love
> >     >> claimed she never
> approved Cobain's digital likeness, and that
> >     she
> >     >> thought the grunge
> rocker would despise the rhythm game "let
> >     alone
> >     >> this avatar."
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >
> > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ipFhOuBuSMv3z7cr0LgPJT4dWALAD9AKR3600
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> I'm glad Jimmy turned
> down using LZ in these video games. The
> >     thought
> >     >> of a reanimated John
> Bonham, pretending to drum along to other
> >     songs,
> >     >> would be
> disrespectful to the man.
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> 2009/6/22 Nech <tytlane@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >     >>> Page added that
> he can't imagine that people are really
> >     learning anything
> >     >>> significant about
> playing instruments by playing video games.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> "You think of the
> drum part that John Bonahm did on Led
> >     Zeppelin's first
> >     >>> track on the
> first album, 'Good Times Bad Times'," he said.
> >     "How many
> >     >>> drummers in the
> world can play that part, let alone on
> >     Christmas
> >     >>> morning?"
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> http://www.nme.com/news/the-white-stripes/45521
> >     >>
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > --
> >     > Jon Hull
> >     >
> >