Fwd: Ramblings on tech details Re: New TSRTS cover

["Nathan Hevensone" <nhevensone@xxxxxxxxx>]

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From: Nathan Hevensone <nhevensone@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Aug 27, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Ramblings on tech details Re: New TSRTS cover
To: TangerineMan <tangerineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


On 8/27/07, TangerineMan <tangerineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks again, Steve!

> The running time of the reissue is listed on Amazon as
> being 138 minutes. The running time of the existing DVD release is
> 137 minutes. I'm guessing the extra minute is due to the inclusion of
> extra credits for the reissue, e.g., Kevin Shirley's credit for
> remastering the sound, and some credits for whoever edited the
> footage of the above songs. In other words, it's the same-old, same-
> old "most expensive home movie ever made" (to use Peter Grant's
> description). And we'll have to watch Plant munching magic 'shrooms
> and dispatching nasty castle guards etc. etc. instead of seeing new
> onstage action.

How much of the initial non-concert footage was played without music?
I know the two scenes involving Peter Grant didn't have any music
behind them, but what else?  Isn't it possible that the same running
time could mean that the fantasy sequences were cut in favor of the
live footage, too?  Or am I seriously miscalculating the timing (which
is probably the case, lol)?

> We know from the press releases back in July that there are 40
> minutes of bonus material. THAT's where we'll see the extra songs,
> along with the Plant/Grant interview, bank robbery footage and the
> Cameron Crowe radio show.

I've seen the Plant/Grant interview... but what is the bank robbery
thing and the Cameron Crowe radio show thing, again?

> Also, note that there is still no tracklisting for the DVD reissue.
> But it looks like we _are_ going to be getting OTHaFA and Celebration
> Day, two never-before-seen songs. (The Ocean and MMH will surely be
> identical to what's on "DVD".)

You're probably right about this.

> Plus the audio on the DVD is
> remastered by Shirley, so at least the sound will be better,
> presumably, than what's been available previously.

Not presumably.  It's Shirley... this release should sound and look as
good as "DVD."

> The other disappointing thing is that it's going to be widescreen,
> not fullscreen. As I've written at length in at least one post, a few
> years back, the widescreen releases of TSRtS do not give you the
> biggest picture. I'm not going to go into the detail I did in those
> posts, but it boils down to this: The film was originally shot in 4:3
> and cropped when shown in theaters. The existing DVD reproduces that
> cropping, and so will the reissue. The _laserdisc_ and original VHS
> (I think) home video releases of the film are the only ones that
> reproduce that format and give you more picture on the top and
> bottom. 'Course, more and more people have 16:9 flatscreen TVs these
> days, and want that screen to be filled, without black bars on the
> sides, so I can understand why they went with the widescreen format.

Personally I love Widescreen, because I prefer seeing more what's on
the sides than what's on top and bottom, especially when it comes to
live concert footage.

> Here's another thought, though. There are HD-DVD and Blu-Ray releases
> as well. So that almost surely means the video has been newly
> digitized, in higher resolution, from a (hopefully) pristine 35mm
> print. And that _may_ in turn mean better video quality/less
> artifacting on the plain-old DVD reissue.

I would agree, but I think that's going to be the case.

> Btw, the "collector's" version of the DVD also has a page on Amazon:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Song-Remains-Same-Led-Zeppelin/dp/B000UR9TQO/
> ref=pd_bxgy_d_img_b/103-0479828-0285459?ie=UTF8&qid=1188093453&sr=8-4
>
> Box and cover design look quite nice!

I wrote my own review just now (4-Stars, though I say I may change
that).  More a response to a 2-Star review that just got posted
(rather hastily, might I add... the 2-star was hasty, that is... mine
was thought out and not so hasty... or so I'd like to think... :D).
Was that 2-star you, BTW? :D

> AND... on that page there is a review from someone who is very
> probably Kevin Shirley himself (screen name "Deven Wayman" aka
> "Caveman"), complaining that the press releases are misleading:
>
> "Note: this movie is not just remastered, or even remixed! The audio
> has been entirely revisited, and the performances are stellar with
> the images now. For whatever reason, Warners just say remastered when
> they don't have a clue. like the Page/Plant Unledded DVD and CD, the
> audio is brand new. And it's fantastic! KS"

The KS is suspicious, but I don't think it is Shirley because there is
one other review on his profile, though that could mean nothing.



ETA... I just preordered it (the collector's edition) about 5 minutes
ago.  I can't freakin' wait!



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