Fwd: Black Zeppelin Tapes

["Oner Ozaylak" <oner.ozaylak@xxxxxxxxx>]

<And Oner, with all due respect my friend, as much as I like Wolf Mother and
think they are one of the better new bands, they should be paying Zeppelin
and Sabbath royalties for inspiring their music...........

Remember one thing, I love Zeppelin and no disrespect meant,............but
........................................Black Sabbath invented Heavy Metal!!!>

hi john,

i'd be much happier if new bands even knew/realized to whom they've
owed the chance to be there and make music. jimmy & co. are aware of
it (see the inner sleeve of TSTRT for a quick example). paying
tribute, homage, respect would be enough for me, forget royalties for
inspiration.

as for the term heavy metal; i can't say who invented it though a vast
majority of music people agree that jimmy page is responsible for
(though i can never accept heavy metal classification for led
zeppelin) but i always think/see black sabbath is the first metal
band.

oner

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From: john tyra <green_acres1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Nov 21, 2006 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: Black Zeppelin Tapes
To: john tyra <green_acres1@xxxxxxxxxxx>, zeppelin-digest@xxxxxxxx

Sorry if this posts twice but I forgot to set the format to plain text the
first time so thought it might get bounced

Not sure if this has been discussed on the list before but if it has I
apologize for the redundancy but thought some might find this of interest...

I just started reading a new book about  Black Sabbath titled "Doom Let
Loose" by Martin Popoff which after 100 pages is pretty good so far...

According to interviews with the Sabbath boys it seems they were quite
friendly with Robert and Bonzo. They used to hang out quite a bit in the
early 70's and according to the interviews even jammed together on several
occasions. The story goes on for several pages and I am too lazy to type all
the text so here are some interesting excerpts which I had never heard
before....

Tony Iommi mentions they were very friendly with Robert and Bonzo as they
were from the same town. He remembers when Bonzo used to play with a lot of
local bands and was always getting fired for playing too loud. Bonzo was
even the best man at Tony's wedding.............

There is a rumour of the so called "Black Zeppelin" tapes existing.
Supposedly a book publisher was visiting an ex manager of Sabbath and
noticed a box in the corner of his office marked "Black Zeppelin" The
curious publisher was told that the bands were both rehearsing down the road
from each other and as a lark switched singers for a bit of fun and the
sessions were supposedly recorded. Ozzy, in another interview claims this
never happened but remembers a jam session with Sabbath, Robert, Bonzo and
JPJ which he says might have been recorded.

According to the book the  Zep SwanSong label was trying to sign Sabbath and
Geezer claims they did have a jam session, minus Jimmy, and remembers it was
mostly blues stuff  but doesn't believe it was recorded. Sabbath's manager
recorded everything in those days but Geezer does not remember these
sessions being recorded but does say they were probably stoned and does not
remember what they played.

Bill Ward remembers Geezer Butler and Robert being very tight. He claims
they worked on songs and arrangements together with the thought of doing
something together but this evidently never went anywhere and he does not
remember any recordings of the material being done.

During the recording of Black Sabbath Vol 4. at London's Morgan Studios
Bonzo and Plant came down to jam. Bonzo really loved the Sabbath song "
Supernaut" and sat in and played with the rest of the band. Bill mentions
Bonzo really had the song down and it sounded "really cool" with Bonzo on
drums but doesn't remember it being recorded..............

Hey it may be a long shot but how cool would it be if all these tapes really
existed!!!

That's it for the first 100 pages.............

Not Zep related but I thought was funny...The coughing at the beginning of
"Sweet Leaf " from the Masters of Reality album was Tony Iommi who had just
taken a hit off of  monster spleef Ozzy had handed him during the recording
so they left it in the song...I must have listened to that song a million
times in my younger days so I thought that was a great story..............

And Oner, with all due respect my friend, as much as I like Wolf Mother and
think they are one of the better new bands, they should be paying Zeppelin
and Sabbath royalties for inspiring their music...........

Remember one thing, I love Zeppelin and no disrespect meant,............but
........................................Black Sabbath invented Heavy Metal!!!