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A few thoughts for the weekend
- Subject: A few thoughts for the weekend
- From: "Jerry Czarnecki" <jerrymcza@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 23:47:24 +0000
1. Pretty sure that "Platinum" means 4,000,000 (four million) copies; I
assume this is worldwide...
2. BB Page wrote:
I doubt you can call it integrity that they chose to
disband all those years ago. From what I can tell, it
seemed like it was inevitable that Plant would want a
solo career of his own, and that the band was going to
at least close shop for an extended period. Page's
desire to reform the band, and Plant playing Zep tunes
on his solo tours - and with Page in '95 and '98 -
just point out that the band wasn't meant to end
permanently in '80. Performing is their livelyhood,
and as the tradition says, the show must go on.
- --Exactly. Several things to add as well:
Like all rock stars, Zep has had a tendency to go easy on themselves out of
self-pity. Going back to 1977, was the death of Plant's son Karak really a
sufficient reason to cancel the rest of that tour and to do nothing for the
next two years? In the real world, no one would get away with that. Ditto
the death of Bonham. Was it "integrity" that drove Pagey into drugs after
1980 when his pal died of, more or less, drug abuse? I saw Pagey on the
Outrider tour in 1988, with Jason Bonham on drums. During the drum solo, the
spotlight was trained on him as he chugged back a Heineken. Given the way
his father died, I found that particularly distasteful.
Was Bonham irreplaceable? It's hard to say, given that it wasn't tried. I
think that Luis Rey is spot-on in focusing on the competition between Page
and Plant and Page and Bonham as something that drove them on. Perhaps Plant
didn't want to continue because he didn't want to face Page alone, and
because Bonham was "his," while Jonesy was more on Page's side. However,
with Jonesy extending himself, especially in things like the 1977 No
Quarter, he could have taken up some of the slack of competing with Page or
balancing out Page. And if they were more than the sum of their parts--as
has been sadly confirmed by their solo efforts--then the remaining threesome
would still be so with a different drummer.
Finally, if Zep was really revolutionary, then they ought to have continued
from a responsibility to music, which transcends individuals. Zep didn't
finish the job, which is one reason why rock is stuck in this rut right now.
Imagine what Zep could have done melding rock with classical music--as
Pagey's ambition seemed to be around the time of ITTOD--the way they did
rock with blues. It would have been interesting even for Page to go forward
on this with just Jonesy and no singer. After a couple of weeks of
rehearsals, Plant would have come around.
3. Not to spoil the fun around the new releases... It will be interesting
to see how "the rest of the world" reacts to what we have known profoundly
and for a long time. Especially interesting will be how many people pick up
on how different Zep sounds every time you hear them. I mean, with this new
package, there will be four live versions of Stairway available, three
SIBLYS, etc. Are people going to have a sense that even this is just the tip
of the iceberg?