Re: Der Fuhrer Replies

[Jeremy Mixer <mixer@xxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 Earth2Jack13@xxxxxx wrote:

> I've abbreviated some of the things you've said about Billy's other list.
> There is more slamming here from you then I ever heard anywhere else. I don't
> know who you are talking to, but if anyone is sitting there thinking that
> anyone puts down FBO, bad mouths people or has any discussions about FBO, it
> just isn't so. The biggest put downs I've heard is from you !

I've had things forwarded to me by people. And Frankly, it was rather
disgusting. Maybe it was made up? Possibly, but I've seen simil;ar things
from different people...... Listen, I am not putting down people on the
list, I am not bothered by the fact it is a private invite-only forum, tht
is up to anyone if they want to do something like that. I just don;t like
the backstabbing I've read and heard about.
 >
> Everyone has their own opinion and can run things as they see fit, but there
> is no "conspiracy" or rules that restrict someone from eventually trading out
> any exclusive shows. In fact, I know of no shows in Billy's club that havn't
> been circulated on FBO. Can you tell me some ? Maybe I am missing something.

It's easy to say that Hack, but when I have had several people tell me in
private email or even ask me if I am willing to administer a tree for a
show that was circulated in the "Phreaks" and they want to get it out to
FBO and into the general public, however I could not reveal who they were
or anything about where I got the show from. The three times this has
happened I turned it down because honestly, the live shows aren;t my top
priority. Sure some are nice to have, but I mam more interested in studio
outtakes then anything, and I am not a very fast trader so I purposely
avoid it. What shows? I couldn;t tell you, I don;t keep track of a lot of
these things because as I just said, it's not on my priority list.

> Believe me when I tell you, there are NO discussions about FBO or its members
> in Billy's club. If someone is talking about you, it is in private e-mails I
> guess.

OK maybe it is.......I've just seen a couple things where my name has been
rbought up and others had some....we'll just call them comments. Somewht
NEGATIVE mind you, I took it with a grain of salt. But with all this
discussion of the "Phreaks" I had to offer my input, and I did.

> Your kind of post is the reason people continue to harbor bad feelings about
> each other.

I don't harbor bad feelings toiwards anyone except one person on FBO who
shall remain nameless who I am  pretty sure is NOT part of the Phreaks
group, she has been very difficult to me over the yearsand I have tried to
make good on several occaisions only to be shot down again. I harbor NO
hard feelings towards anyone on that group, I just don;t like the whole
idea of everything I have heard from multiple sources who shall remain
nameless. I think it is even more of a shame, as someone pointed out (I
didn;t see the post until I had typed mine up) that it is a damn shame
that a former community of one is now split up into so many pathetic
parts.

> Everyone is on more then one list, be it Zeppelin lists or not. I don't see
> why Billy continues to to take so much heat because he chooses to do
> something different.

There are people who have been threasted to be kicked off if they leaked
\shows to FBO, and I don't know that from just those who have posted
publicly about it here on FBO. THis has been told to me by MANY people
privately. MAN people. Maybe they did all make it up, sure.

Philly Jack- you are the one who seems to come to defense of the little
exlusive group- that's your perogative. I find it very ironic that the
only time people from the "Phreaks" say anything is when their precious
little group is slammed.

I meant no offense to you or even Billy. I just don;t like the idea of
hoarding shows within a select group of  a few friends. The reason all
those shows made it onto FBO is because someone leaked them.

> If you don't like it , move on. Get over it dude.

Honestly I could care less. I just don;t think it is right for everyone on
FBO to be kept in the dark. WHat have I got to lose? Not too much. Unless
FBO votes to ban me as an assistant Admin, and while I could be proven
wrong, I doubt my criticsism of an exclusive "give me a blow job and
you'll get rare shows" kinda club is gonna get that revoked. And if it
does, I'll still remain a proud FBO subscriber.

all the best,

Jeremy