Phasing the cymbal-sound...

["J.R. Sroufe" <captaingonzo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

'sup y'all,

Does anybody besides me find the Phase Shifter effect the 
soundman put on Bonham's cymbals annoying after a while? The 
effect is most pronounced on certain soundboard recordings.  

Prime example of what I'm talking about: 'Kashmir' from Dallas 3/4/75 
 About five minutes of that constant "swiiiish-swiiish-swiiiiish" drives 
me bananas.  

This is one of the reasons a good audience recording can beat a 
board recording sometimes.  

I'm sure the phase effect sounded great in the big room, but fed out 
of the board it sounds like shit on tape. Jonesey's keyboards on the 
'80 tour soundboards are the same way. Really cheesy. Vocal-wise 
or bass-wise, you can rarely beat a board recording. But for the 
instruments other than bass guitar, a live recording needs some 
acoustic reinforcement from the room. Of course, audience 
recordings from an outdoor show can't be helped much in this way, 
since the sound is going straight out over the crowd and not being 
reflected around much.   

J.R.