Re: A shot in the dark

[Bonzo0217 <Bonzo0217@xxxxxxx>]

I'm not sure how I want to argue this one, but I think it's important to
consider in any discussion that the 1980 shows that did get played were just a
warmup shows for the big US tour, which probably would have included a longer
set.  Also, just one question: If the motto for the 1980 tour (US and Europe)
was "Cut the Waffle"--i.e. cut solo pieces like No Quarter, Moby Dick,
D&C/Page bow solo--then why is there like eighteen minutes of a 120 minute set
of really BORING White Summer in Berlin (and presumably others--the final gig
is the only one I have heard in its entirety)?
OK its probably about 14 minutes after Jimmy finally gets an in-tune guitar,
but still its boring and still 14 minutes is a long solo piece for a show
trying to cut the long solos....
There's my two thoughts--probably worth almost a penny each:)
lbw

In a message dated 98-03-23 01:49:02 EST, you write:

<<     I was wondering about the 1980 tour (as the title implies).  I know
 many have slagged it for being fairly poor and just having an overall
 low quality, but do any of you think that it may be because the boys
 seemed to be playing just about every song at double speed?  Of course,
 I've only heard three shows from early in the tour (Dortmund, Cologne,
 Brussels), and so maybe they slowed things down as they tired out, but
 it seems to me that any problems in terms of technical proficiency may
 lead out of the fact that the band seem to be in a hurry for some
 reason.  Take for example the version of STH from Dortmund (6/17/80),
 and compare it to the version of STH on TSRTS.  Jimmy's solo at the
 Dortmund show begins around the 4 minute mark, and the song ends up
 being extended to 9 minutes flat.  On TSRTS, Jimmy enters the solo
 around the 6 minute mark, and the song ends up being around 11 minutes
 in duration.  NBFBM is far quicker than the version at Knebworth, and
 The Rain Song loses most of its subtle beauty by being rushed, in an
 almost cursory and perfunctory.
 
     On the other hand, from what I've heard, they did wonderful versions
 of Kashmir and SIBLY, but on the whole, they seem to be saying, "Wow, we
 don't want to be here, so we'll do a really short show and blow through
 every song."  Maybe I'm reading it wrong, and they're actually trying to
 show everyone that they still have lots of energy, and that they can
 enter the '80's with as much spirit as they did the '70's...anyone else
 care to comment?
 
 Andrew
 af091255@xxxxxxx
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