Bollocks To The Seventies, Here's The Bible Belt.

[MrBlonde <mrblonde@xxxxxxxxx>]

Greetings Sea Going Badgeholders Who Fly At Night,

Warning. This post is long, boring and has fuck all to do with the music
of Led Zeppelin.


Theolyn:

>>  I _do_ have experience at being a young woman circa
>> 1974.  Do you?

> "Watch out, watch out..." ;)
> Is that an answer we really wanna hear ? :-)

Matt Murphy taught me all I know about cross dressing.


> Do you sometimes get the feeling that two people are "talking"
> and neither one are listening?

:-)

Well, not to disappoint ...


Jean:

The intended thrust of my post was:

1. The experiences of the members of Led Zeppelin were a world removed
from the experiences of any of us. The reason we cannot appreciate their
experiences is that we:

+ Are not all 20 year old men with incredibly large egos
+ Are not British freshly experiencing the USA and all the cultural
differences
+ Are not multi millionaires
+ Do not have minders, roadies, pimps, yes men and other sychophants
constantly telling us how wonderful we are
+ Do not travel away from home for months at a time away from our loved
ones and the self control they inspire
+ Do not go on stage every night to be adulated by thousands of people
+ Are not faced with attractive young people who want to have sex with
us every night
+ Are not presented with virtually unlimited vice at all times
+ I could go on ...

My opinion is that, because of all these reasons, none of us know what
it is like to be Jimmy Page (for example). Put any one of us in that
situation and we might all behave the same way (I know I would, but I
haven't mastered the glowing red eye thing). To judge something you
don't understand seems to me to be pointless. You just don't have the
insight to make meaningful judgement.

2. It is no longer 1968 or 1970something. Today is a different time, a
different morality. In my opinion it is not valid to judge events of 30
years ago against today's values. Maybe your post is basically agreeing
with this point?


My post was not a general discussion of the perceived values of the 70s.
My post was about self righteous judgement of the behaviour of Led
Zepplein during their careers. I mentioned 1974 as a reference point. 


> circa 1974.  There is no judgment made.  I have no experience at being a
> rock star circa 1974.  I _do_ have experience at being a young woman circa
> 1974.  Do you?  

Yes. I was around in 1974 and I was very pretty. I have a feminine side,
you know. I'm kinda sensitive about it, but if you're nice to me the
little bitch in me will curtsy just as sweet as you please.

Want some?(licks lollipop)


> Not the fame and fortune, but the sex, drugs, and what you choose to call
> "evil" were just as available to me in the 1970's as to anyone else.  What

Do you seriously think you had access to the same temptations as Jimmy
Page or Robert Plant? How many underage groupies camped out in your
hotel lobby? 


> you forget is that what you now categorize as evil, in the 1970's we thought
> of as good, as a break with the "establishment" that had failed us, a new
> morality that we would pass on to our children, who would grow up without
> the hangups we worked so hard to get rid of.

By evil I meant dabblings in occult, Satanism, bondage and all that
Jimmy stuff. I don't count fantasizing about William Shatner as evil.


> Go ahead, Kenny--sneer as much as you like at such foolishness.  Before you

(sneer)


> and some people I wasn't willing to trust.  But that doesn't mean the time
> didn't happen.  I was there.  So were Led Zeppelin.  The fact that the era
> crashed and burned doesn't mean that it never existed.  Jean

Well Jean, just because I think your post is bombastic, judgemental and
presumptious doesn't mean I deny the existance of the 70s or Led
Zeppelin.

:-)


- -=[ Kenny ]=-